Koronavirus - Covid-19 Fundamental tråd 2

F-Tosca · april 17, 2020, 2:02pm

Vet. Det står også i saken.

15:14Mina Ridder-Nielsen Janssen

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847 nye dødsfall i Storbritannia:

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Det siste døgnet har det vært 847 nye coronadødsfall i Storbritannia på sykehusene.

Det viser tall fra helsedepartementet, ifølge Sky News.

14 576 personer er nå døde som følge av pandemien i Storbritannia.

Krafer · april 17, 2020, 2:05pm

Tallene stemmer veldig dårlig med det man offisielt snakker om i Norge så vil tro det er et rapporteringsproblem. Det er sikkert en korrekt måte å hente ut dataene på men hvis det ikke rapporteres i noen stor grad så blir jo tallene rav rusk gale uansett.

holmes · april 17, 2020, 2:08pm

Helt klart. Det var også mitt poeng at det var helt feil å bruke tallene på denne måten.

koe · april 17, 2020, 2:29pm

For øvrig enig med dere i at tallene høres for høye ut. Men jeg har ikke gransket kildene hans, bare bringer det videre,

Pablo · april 17, 2020, 2:54pm

Man trenger ikke å videreformidle ting som er åpenbart feil.

F-Tosca · april 17, 2020, 2:59pm

koe · april 17, 2020, 3:03pm

Til syvende og sist tror jeg nå det blir du som har videreformidlet ting som er åpenbart feil.

Pablo · april 17, 2020, 3:03pm

Har jeg videreformidlet fake news?

Når det gjelder mine egne meninger og betraktninger har de vært temmelig spot on.

koe · april 17, 2020, 3:16pm

Spania hadde i overkant av 400 dødsfall fra influensa i 2016-2017 sesongen. Med dagens tall på Worldometer er det 45 ganger flere dødsfall fra Covid-19.

From these figures it is clear that the number of deaths related to the flu virus is far higher this season compared to 2016-17, when there was a total of 421 deaths between October 2016 and May 2017.

Hvis det er fake news dette også vil jeg gjerne at du kommer med noen kilder i stedet for bare babbel.

Pablo · april 17, 2020, 3:19pm

Så Norge hadde mer enn dobbelt så mange influensadødsfall som Spania?

Lov å bruke hodet.

koe · april 17, 2020, 3:40pm

We estimated an annual average of 866 868 cases of ILI attended in primary care (55% were MCIC), 3616 SHCIC, 1232 ICU admissions, and 437 deaths in SHCIC. ( severe hospitalized confirmed influenza cases)

holmes · april 17, 2020, 5:41pm

In the 2011-12 season, the FluMOMO model identified the maximum percentage (97%) of deaths attributable to influenza in people older than 64 years with respect to the mortality total associated with influenza (13,822 deaths).

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

[Excess mortality associated with influenza in Spain in winter 2012].

I León-Gómez, C Delgado-Sanz, S Jiménez-Jorge, V Flores, F Simón, D Gómez-Barroso, A Larrauri and S de Mateo Ontañón, Gaceta sanitaria, Jul-Aug 2015

An excess of mortality was detected in Spain in February and March 2012 by the Spanish daily mortality surveillance system and the «European monitoring of excess mortality for public health action» program. The objective of this article was to determine whether this excess could be attributed to influenza in this period.Excess mortality from all causes from 2006 to 2012 were studied using time series in the Spanish daily mortality surveillance system, and Poisson regression in the European mortality surveillance system, as well as the FluMOMO model, which estimates the mortality attributable to influenza. Excess mortality due to influenza and pneumonia attributable to influenza were studied by a modification of the Serfling model. To detect the periods of excess, we compared observed and expected mortality.In February and March 2012, both the Spanish daily mortality surveillance system and the European mortality surveillance system detected a mortality excess of 8,110 and 10,872 deaths (mortality ratio (MR): 1.22 (95% CI:1.21-1.23) and 1.32 (95% CI: 1.29-1.31), respectively). In the 2011-12 season, the FluMOMO model identified the maximum percentage (97%) of deaths attributable to influenza in people older than 64 years with respect to the mortality total associated with influenza (13,822 deaths). The rate of excess mortality due to influenza and pneumonia and respiratory causes in people older than 64 years, obtained by the Serfling model, also reached a peak in the 2011-2012 season: 18.07 and 77.20, deaths per 100,000 inhabitants, respectively.A significant increase in mortality in elderly people in Spain was detected by the Spanish daily mortality surveillance system and by the European mortality surveillance system in the winter of 2012, coinciding with a late influenza season, with a predominance of the A(H3N2) virus, and a cold wave in Spain. This study suggests that influenza could have been one of the main factors contributing to the mortality excess observed in the winter of 2012 in Spain.