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CrayoNano AS

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#5629

Written at Finansavisen forum tonight, same person, with some new text.

To be clear, this is fake news, you get the tax deduction in the same year of the company potential opens bankruptcy.

Anybody with access call this out, this is also very thoughtful section:

“Det samme vil nok 37.840 kr bety for den som har investert i selskapet for 100.000 kr i de tider vi opplever nå i forhold til høye renter på lån og høye strømpriser og høye matpriser o.s.v.,; det er penger som vil komme godt med nå og ikke om mange år frem i tid.”

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#5630

Klippet fra skatteetaten:

3.7 Konkurs

Konkurs i selskapet regnes som realisasjon av aksjene med null i vederlag. Eventuelt fradragsberettiget tap hos aksjonærene tidfestes i det inntektsåret konkurs åpnes. Skattepliktig gevinst som skyldes f.eks. negativ inngangsverdi på grunn av tidligere negativ RISK, inntektsføres i det inntektsåret konkurs åpnes. Blir det utbetalt dividende vedrørende aksjene i et senere år, er det bruttobeløpet som eventuelt vil være skattepliktig.

Leveres boet tilbake til selskapet, legges det normalt til grunn at realisasjon ikke anses å ha funnet sted på tidspunktet for åpning av konkursen.

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#5631

Med det så kan man avslutte Caroline for det det var.

Det slike “Caroline-hendelser” får en til å tenke er at noen vet et eller annet mer enn andre. Hvorfor bunnfiske sååå ivrig om det ikke er fordi en vet / tror en vet mer enn andre.
Har bunnfisket selv på 1,-, men det er fordi jeg er optimistisk på det at selskapet har livets rett i en verden der teknologien trengs / benyttes stadig mer, og ikke gjennom baissing. Tvert i mot vil jeg heller gjerne se at lave salgsordrer trekkes for å få en mer relevant kurs :slight_smile:

Sekundært er det underlig at aksjen ikke er delistet når pref.aksjer er registrert og alt er på stell.

Som sagt, excitement guaranteed, det er det ingen tvil om :slight_smile:

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#5632

Godt forsøk av Caroline / Cruelly. Nå er vel også Crayonano gjeldsfri, så et konkursbo skulle vel uansett gå fort å gjøre opp.

#5633

Det er jo komisk lite bevegelser som skal til før aksjen står i 6,-, og mcap er oppe i >220MNOK

Kan ikke forstå annet enn at vi vil se informasjon fra selskapet snart.

#5634

Synes Caroline får ufortjent mye tyn her; hennes poeng er veldig enkelt og for det meste korrekt.
Vi er nok mange som har tenkt at et salg nå, vil gi gode skattefradrag med en gang (les; i år).
Tror ikke risikoen for veldig snarlig og stor kurs-økning er overhengende og da kan man jo bare kjøpe tilbake aksjen til omtrent samme pris senere; enklest om vi forblir på NOTC, men fullt mulig etterpå også
Konkurs-prosesser kan ta tid, også før man kan åpne prosessen; som altså er triggerpunktet for å utløse skattefradrag, så det Caroline framfører er vettugt nok.

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#5635

FYI, the post has been deleted from Finansavisen forum now.

#5636

Hvis konkurs hadde vært eneste utvei, så hadde alle store eiere vært tjent med at prosessen hadde blitt iverksatt fort nok til at de kan dra nytte av det i årsregnskapet. Konkurs er derimot avsporing. Crayonano er gjeldfri.

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#5637
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#5638
## CrayoNano AS summons all shareholders to an Extraordinary General Meeting ### Company news ### 2024-09-19 10:30:45
Trondheim, Norway, 19 September 2024

Reference is made to the NOTC-announcement issued by CrayoNano AS (the “Company”) on 12 September where the Company provided a market, customer and company update.

The Company hereby summons all shareholders to an Extraordinary General Meeting to be held on 3 October 2024 at 10:00 (Norwegian time).

The Company has been able to conclude certain measures to extend the short-term liquidity to allow for the General Meeting to be conducted. The Board of Directors has also recently on the basis of a revised business plan intensified its initiatives towards the Company’s shareholders, other stakeholders and potential new investors to sound the interest in participating in transactions to strengthen the Company’s short- and long-term liquidity. As of the date of this announcement these discussions have not led to sufficient interest to propose any transaction for the Company’s shareholders to consider at the Extraordinary General Meeting and it is highly uncertain whether it will be possible to find such solutions to be presented for the Extraordinary General Meeting.

There is limited time available to solve the short-term liquidity need and a solution will most likely require resolutions by the General Meeting. In order to allow the Board of Directors to continue these discussions while having all relevant tools available, the Board will ask the General Meeting for authorizations to carry out issues of new ordinary shares and new preference shares, as well as convertible loans with conversion right into ordinary shares and preference shares. The Board of Directors accordingly proposes that the General Meeting approves board authorizations with maximum size and flexibility as permitted under the Companies Act, including the ability to deviate from the shareholders’ preferential right pursuant to the Companies Act sections 10-4 and 11-4. The Board of Directors also asks to be mandated to explore opportunities to enter into, and to conclude, transactions involving disposal of all or parts of the Company’s assets, including but not limited to its IPR.

For further information please refer to the enclosed notice.
The notice with all attachments can also be found on our website: CrayoNano | Investors

For more information, please contact:|

#5639

Summarized: The board is quickly asking the general assembly for permission to sell the company despite it is a breach with the business plan. Possible fire sale.

  1. Mandate to sell assets
    Based on the Board’s assessment the underlying value of the Company’s assets is significantly higher than the debt of the Company, meaning that the balance is not insufficient. The Board may on that basis explore the possibility of selling some or all of the Company’s assets if deemed in the best interest of the Company and its stakeholders.

In order to allow the Board to continue these discussions while having all relevant tools available, the Board will ask the General Meeting for authorizations to carry out issues of new ordinary shares and new preference shares, as well as convertible loans with conversion right into ordinary shares and preference shares

The Board will also explore alternatives to sell the Company’s assets, including the Company’s IPR, which will require a resolution by the General Meeting.

Board was of the opinion that it was necessary to carry out the private placement of preference shares in the May 2024 equity raise to secure short-term funding and pursue short-term options for long-term funding of the Company.

#5640

Rart det ikke blir mer støy og oppvask.
De har altså sagt at selve teknologien som ingen kan måle seg mot skal være rett rundt hjørnet, siste info var at den skulle komme i Q4 2024. Og nå er de i stedet rett ved å gå konk ? De må jo ha skjult masse grums for aksjonærene her ??

#5641

Det er jo litt snodig at selskapet har satt seg i en situasjon hvor det fremstår som om de har gamblet på en langsiktig finansieringsløsning, som falt i fisk.

Noen høydepunkt i fra Investor Update 24. mai 2024:

  • Ongoing commercial traction and active discussions with a number of global names, some advanced
  • Achieved first cost reduction for the UV-C LED product, providing benefits to customers through a 10% lower pricing and improving CrayoNano’s competitiveness in the marketplace
  • Good progress being made in product development, and targeting to reduce the price-performance parameter by 50%, with pilot products anticipated to be ready by end Q4 2024
    *CrayoNano is in active discussions with a number of global names, some advanced, which could meaningfully scale revenue in the near-term, and hopes to announce a new contract as well as other partnerships shortly.
  • Alongside advancing contracts, progress in Q1 2024 included the further scaling of the global sales pipeline including design-ins, and improvements to the competitiveness of the UV-C LED product in the marketplace thereby growing the total addressable market. CrayoNano continues to have a secure order book of initial volume sales, and with the considerable scope to add contracts as the year progresses, is confident in the outturn for 2024.
    *CrayoNano is currently in active discussions and working closely with several global names, including a leading home appliance manufacturer, and hopes to announce a new design-in with a blue-chip brand shortly, as well as other strategic and commercial partnerships.
    *As detailed in the Financial Update below, revenue growth is anticipated to be second-half weighted due to the anticipated lead times.
    *CrayoNano has made further progress in the development of its next UV-C LEDs, and is continuing to grow the total addressable market and applications for its product through ongoing technology and pricing. Through recent engineering, CrayoNano has been able to achieve a first cost reduction for its UV-C LED product, providing benefits to customers through a 10% lower pricing and improving its competitiveness in the marketplace. CrayoNano is still targeting to implement a significant step forward to a market leading position by reducing the price-performance parameter by 50%.
    *CrayoNano has also secured five design-wins since the period end to date, illustrating the ongoing positive advancement of the pipeline following actively working with partners on design-ins. These design-wins cover a disinfection solution for the Korean public transportation system, water and surface disinfection for smart farming, and further water disinfection reactors.
    *CrayoNano already has the operating structure and purchased inventory in place to deliver on the initial NOK 13m order book. In addition, only modest additional operating costs and capex would be required to deliver on additional large scale volume orders.
#5642

Jeg googlet CrayoLed i går kveld, og fikk opp innlegg i LinkedIn kontoen til BSH (Siemens, Bosch, Gaggenau, Neff++). Men når jeg går inn på linken finner jeg ikke noe av teksten i søkesvaret. Kan den være slettet eller redigert?

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#5643

Denne plutselige brå vendingen vedrørende fremtidsutsiktende virker noe suspekt.

#5644

Dette du refererer til er fra CrayoNano selv.

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#5646

*The Board is authorized pursuant to the Companies Act section 11-8 to resolve to take up *
*convertible loans with an aggregate principal amount of up to NOK 220 million. Subject to this *
aggregate amount limitation, the authority may be used on more than one occasion.

Bør vel være nok kapital til å holde selskapet flytende opp mot 3 år, med dagens cash burn.

#5647

Ja hvis de får et sånt lån så er det vel bare å gå for det vel? Men da må vel banken først tro på at de kommer i mål og får kommersialisert produktet sitt ?

#5648

Fundamentalt avvikende kurs vs. det finansielle. Aksjen prises som en branntomt vs. faktisk gjeldssituasjon og de finansielle verktøyene som er / vil være tilgjengelig.

#5649

Du er en snedig ende, Apple :slight_smile: