Diskusjon Triggere Porteføljer Aksjonærlister

CrayoNano AS

Elektronikk
#6375

We know several accounts in here are the same people with previous account doing the same.

You dont have any contribution in form of valid arguments, analysis or intel, something that benefits the forum, and your response is attacking.

You just suggested to “take over CrayoNano with a couple of others in here, because you would do much better job” - you cannot expect anybody to take this seriously. That shows your respect for the company, but thats fine for us, but its not contributions with meaningful stuff to discuss.

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#6376

The company has most likely lost everything for everyone with ordinary stocks. Look at the share price? Even the biggest investors in the company I talk to are pissed and not happy at all. And they own plenty of p.stocks. You have to admit that the case is lost now don’t you?? I understand and feel Midas frustration plenty, get off your high horse.

#6377

People in here seem to have some challenges in accepting that the NOTC price is not followed by the board (or the largest investors). Right now the NOTC just fulfills the role to transfer shares based on anything.

Most investors since start, back to 2015-2017 have 14-16 in cost price per share, the capital raise April 2023 was done at 14, and the short term this year was also done at 14,- and even the convertible is done at 14,- (if you ignore the discount in converting loan to pref shares).

Preferred stocks aside, they are the default in the global VC game, and they are default from the first round. CrayoNano just got them now because some investors are willing to not dump the price and steal the company, and thats why they ask for at least getting the pri to get potential win first. All types of shareholders have been given the same opportunity to participate in the round, at the same ratio (pro rata). I would say this is fair.

If you think building a global deep tech company is a linear process isolated from world events, then you should not invest in such cases, and stick to index funds.

#6378

Dude… Good luck! We will all probably all loose our money, they will not raise enough money this round is my best guess! I have 15000 ordinary stocks left, and it’s less then 1% of my total portfolio, mainly index, thank god! :joy:

#6379

I may be more positive than you @Apple - same to you, good luck!

#6380

I hope you’re right, but this affects all of us. It can’t be—we’ll have one round of preference stocks, and anyone who isn’t with us is off the boat. We don’t like the way you’re buying and selling our stocks. Have you looked at the other stocks and NTG? It’s a disaster. All the major shareholders and close investors of Rinnan are now completely locked in, with no way out. They’re furious, and with good reason. The situation is much bigger and messier than Crayonano. That’s just one they’ll let go for cheap, and there are things not yet public that could be terrible for the company

#6381

@Apple

You are now stating you talk with the “biggest investors in the company” and “they are furious” , “they let go for cheap” and again the returning topic of “things not yet public that could be terrible for the company”.

With all due respect, this is a lot, but how can you be trusted about this, how can anybody in here be ensured to trust this? Do you expected us to believe this, when you deny to disclose anything.

#6382

@SuperTechInfo what planet are you on?
Ordinary shares will be worth nothing, only pref shares can get something back if they manage to sell assets

#6383

@Bingo123 Do you believe the company can be sold for more than $17M USD?

If no, what is that based on?

#6384

Why do think you can buy shares for 0,1
What have the management proved so far when it comes to talks with industrial players/buyers. The answer is 0
Last time when they got pref shares money in all the dialogs they had crashed.

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#6385

So why are they still holding on to 14 per share in capital raise instead of following the last trading price on NOTC? Why dont they just do a capital raise on 0.1NOK per share?

In other companies in Norway, they would dump the price and dilute to none with either new investor or a combo a long time ago, so why are they not doing it, and instead still providing more capital?

What are your thoughts on that? @Bingo123

#6386

They want to steer this to a sale of assets
And then they can share the money with mostly the largest investors with preference shares
Enough money to keep it floating until they have sold assets
They have understood that they can’t grow the company organically because they don’t get enough money to do it
So they need to see what they can sell the company for now and then those with preference shares will get something back from their investment

#6388

Hopefully not. I don’t have enough competence to say yes or no to that
But a buyer would be in a fantastic position, so it can be low I fear. If they manage to sell it at all…

#6389

They thought they had a buyer when they raised money with pref shares before summer. But it all collapsed. The only difference now is that they have approval to sell assets

#6391

At least they state that they have no active dialogues on that now, but will explore with a professional agent after new year. And they need money while that process is ongoing

Have you seen the last update @SuperTechInfo ?

Why do think potential buyer around summertime canceled everything?
And why do think they suddenly have one now ?

#6393

@SuperTechInfo And even though they say in that update they don’t have any active dialogues with potential buyers of anything now, you still think they have ? And that the project they will start with the agent is not real ?

And I can assure you that it is correct that the largest investors have given up on the ordinary shares. Some will buy preference shares to see if it’s possible to get some money back

#6396

I think Dobbertin leaves because he doesn’t want to be a part of this situation
His bet was the dialogue they had with the industrial players.

#6397

You seem to be not very connected with this tragical and serious situation. Call them and hear it yourself.

#6399

No I think he is an honest man and believed in the company and the dialogues they had. And then he has been very disappointed for numerous reasons and decided to leave.

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#6401

From the update when they said the negotiations with industrial players didn’t lead to anything. The player decided not to do it. That’s why we are in this situation