honor 400 review
det trengs en app, men ikke en fra tredjepart så stemmer bra med det de har sagt ( side 4)
gsm arena er fortsattt ikke helt happy med virtual sensors ( side 2)
Note how they don’t actually say that they had a problem with it during testing, just that it’s been known to have some problems before. Based on the text it’s weird that they even put it as a con in their conclusions. Is it not probable that the software sensor has been improving over the years? So many OEMs are adopting the Elabs proximity sensor for more and more models at an increased pace that I would argue it’s the one Elabs product that is proven to be good enough for users and useful for OEMs.
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This is an interesting find. Had to some some searching about this. Looking at the results Samsung phones have had issues (‘virtual proximity sensor’) and then phones using HW IR sensors have had also issues.
There are three types of proximity sensing commonly used:
So from Elabs perspective:
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IR can be apparantly messed by ambient light sources, non-compliant screen protectors, etc. This is logical as it’s about infrared light.
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Quickly looking ‘virtual proximity sensors’ have been implemented by Samsung to some extend and these seem to have had some problems over the few years. Implementing motion sensors, gyroscope etc. seems to have a reliability problem.
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As per the link below, US should be more reliable than IR sensors and ‘virtual proximity sensors’.
source: Mastering Android proximity sensor: A guide to optimal performance
This raises some questions:
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Why does the manufacturer state the phone has ‘non-physical ultrasonic sensor’, which would refer to Elabs technology (no other players providing this) whereas GSMArena states this would be a ‘virtual proximity sensor’ which is a different thing?
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Has GSM arena actually tested the proximity sensor, or have they just read through the specs and mistaken between two sensors stated above? Because they refer to ‘proven to be unreliable’, and looking at internet search results these seem to be an issue for the actual ‘virtual proximity sensor’ (Samsung etc.) and not so much for ‘non-physical ultrasonic sensor’ (Elabs)? After first look, I believe they maybe got mistaken.
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Elabs has been implemented in over 500mil devices, why there are no complaints about ‘ultrasonic software sensor’ reliability? What ‘unreliable track-record’ is GSMArena referring to? I can’t find it (except for actual ‘virtual proximity sensors’ and ‘IR sensors’). Or perhaps I need to do even more searching.
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If Elabs would have significant reliability problems, why do they keep getting new contracts and phone models at an accelerating phase? This seems unlogical compared to what GSMArena writes.
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Oh, and one final interesting bit - Honor has made cross-device share easier with the Honor Share app - if installed on an iPhone you can AirDrop different files easily.
Honestly not sure if I would download an Honor app on my iPhone to share w/my Honor friends, download a Xiaomi app to share w/my Xiaomi using friends, and so on … Sounds like a PITA, to be honest - and not very seamless.
In regards to the proximity sensor stuff - there could be some confusion in regards to the difference in sensors for China version vs ROW version. Also, if I was a reviewer - and had already tested the Chinese version, and then received the ROW one, I would likely just read the specs and make note of the major differences, like battery capacity - but base my review on the first edition tested. Not to rag on reviewers, but based on experience, speed-to-publish might at times come at the cost of precision (due to lack of time).
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Svært få vil gidde dette. Familier sørger heller for at alle har en iphone enn å drive og laste ned en 3. parts app.
Her sier de noe annet enn den anmeldelsen sier
https://www.huaweicentral.com/honor-magic-5-series-starts-getting-magicos-9-ai-connect-feature/#google_vignette
You don’t need any third-party app or a USB cable to connect your devices before sharing the data. Just access the AI Connect feature via the Honor Connect app and transfer files between iPhone
Hva er egentlig sant?
Det er ikke en motsigelse i eksempelet ditt, siden Honor Connect er ikke en “third-party app”.
Tenkte på hvorvidt iphone må ha installert app fra honor om dette med overføring skal fungere.
Stemmer det?
Ja, det stemmer - som beskrevet av Honor selv, samt vist i skjermbildet fra App Store som jeg la ved i innlegget mitt i går.
Kort oppsummert fra meg i samme innlegg - “not very seamless”.
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Likely own software is required to control the ecosystem, i.e. prevent samsung etc… And for security as discussed before.
Elabs has the capability to go without apps, but OEMs will do it like this for these reasons.
Still not 100% confirmed elabs Seamless, but interesting that the phones remain unannounced.
App is not a problem for those that actually needs it as it still gives clear benefits.
Maybe they announce only the proximity sensor when month changes.
Number of phone/sensor launches remains the key driver for shareholders.
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Det tok henholdsvis 7 og 2 dager fra forrige Honor modeller ble launched til Elabs annonserte dem. Ref. gsmarena.
Så Elabs har ikke nødvendigvis dårlig tid med å kommunisere ut dw’s.
If this/these are counted as June launches/releases/shipments/whateverwordchosenthistime, it seems likely this’ll be announced in the monthly recap coming in July.
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Der kom den, men uten noe «seamless». Nå var kansje ikke featuren i 400 helt «seamless»???
I dag begynner: Barclays EMEA Technology Conference Heldigvis er Laila også på denne conferansen. Da kan det jo skje litt.
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Kan jo være de rett og slett ikke får lov til å gå ut med det offentlig fra Honor. Eller?
Ja, det kan være tilfellet. NDA kan være ganske strenge.
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Seamless available Nov 2023 and Honor 400 contract signed March 2024. There was time to implement it, so it is a possibility.
Sikker på at seamless uoffisielt er i mange telefoner. Det som er dumt er at det er så hysj,hysj at ikke de får betalt- siden det ville røpe hele greia
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Kan også være at det rett og slett ikke er noe seamless i det hele tatt 
Av de reklamene som har vært om denne telefonen både av influensere på tiktok og andre steder så er ikke denne overføringen til iphone fremhevet heller.
Ja, det er litt av greia med den appen der. Tviler på at den blir lastet ned av noen som har en Iphone, med mindre de også har et Honor produkt som gjør at de trenger det. Mulig jeg hadde strukket meg til å laste den ned hvis partneren min hadde Honor telefon, men tvilsomt ellers. Litt usikker på om den tap-to-share vil bli en veldig stor hit, med mindre den kan brukes uten nedlastning på den andre telefonen.
Jeg tror fortsatt ikke at Elabs sitt nye sensor produkt er lansert på den 400-serien. Hvis det lanseres som en løsning hvor Iphone ikke trenger app er dette noe de ville lansert med Flagship telefonen sin og OS update vil jeg tro.
Dersom den er lansert på 400-serien er det skuffende fra et teknologi perspektiv, men positivt fra et inntjeningsperspektiv. Tror uansett ikke det er tilfelle.